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Posted on: Feb. 25 2012,7:10 |
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how much does not warming up effect your shooting?
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Skybuster
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Posted on: Feb. 25 2012,9:33 |
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I am very capable of missing anytime during the season! I do shoot alot in the off-season on clays, especially 5-stand with my 20ga upland gun. I don't notice any difference in my marksmanship during the season opener vs later.
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WiscoJTLBLL
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Posted on: Feb. 25 2012,10:25 |
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I think a lot of is psychological. If you go into the hunt worried that you're going to miss, you'll probably miss.
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ScottGrush
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Posted on: Feb. 25 2012,10:42 |
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How would one "warm up"?
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Greg Hartman
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Posted on: Feb. 25 2012,10:44 |
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Dunno how one can "warm up" for upland wingshooting.
Having watched lots of people shoot at lots of birds when guiding, the most frequent cause of misses seems to be shooting too quickly - emptying the gun before the bird has gone 15 yards. Usually the gun isn't anywhere close to being property mounted. It is very common to see the first shot just thrown away.
To my mind that's all related to a lack of fieldcraft/experience - not necessarily a lack of basic shotgun marksmanship. All that's going through the shooter's mind is" "OMG - a bird! It's getting away!! Gotta shoot NOW - QUICK, QUICK, QUICK!!" If, instead, the shooter is calm (as a result of having shot thousands of flushing birds) and takes a half-second or two to make sure the gun is properly mounted, the shot is safe, the bird isn't too close or too far; and to observe the distance and direction of the bird to determine lead, if any, to decide which trigger to use first, etc, there won't be many first shot misses.
Plenty of practice on clays does wonders for one's basic marksmanship, but I don't think shooting a round of skeet or whatever immediately before heading into the uplands is going to help much with the problem of becoming flustered when a bird flushes.
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patriot
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Posted on: Feb. 25 2012,10:44 |
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About 80% of the time I hit with my first shot........but clays is a different story  ..somehow I just don't do well on them.
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Posted on: Feb. 25 2012,11:51 |
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Yep.
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Cooter Brown
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Posted on: Feb. 25 2012,12:28 |
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I'm not sure if this addresses the question, but when the season starts I usually start off on a streak of hitting birds. Then I go on a streak of misses and then things settle in and I start shooting to my average.
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tricker
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Posted on: Feb. 25 2012,2:25 |
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Last preserve hunt I went on I had to use the 2nd barrel on the first 2 birds. I think I was just anxious and rushed the shots. On ducks I know if there are birds flying I'm going to be firing a few shots. I can usually calm myself down in that situation.
But skeet I know I have a pre-shot ritual and it just works I guess. Usually the 2nd round is my best out of the two. Must just be a confidence thing.
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Fishnfowler
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Posted on: Feb. 25 2012,2:49 |
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I'm all over the map. There are days I can't buy a bird, days I hit everything I shoot at, and days I miss every shot with the first or second barrel.
Sometimes I get frustrated with a gun and put it away, only to later take it out and hit every shot I take. Other times I have a favorite gun and will have a day that I can't hit the broad side of a barn with it.
The first shots are generally what set the pace for me. If I hit well, that trend sticks with me, if I miss the same holds true. This leads me to believe it is psychological. YMMV.
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Rex Hoppie
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Posted on: Feb. 25 2012,2:59 |
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I am fairly consistent. I typically start out missing followed by more missing and then I settle into a general pattern of missing. I have also noticed when I make a point to practice a few times before season begins, I miss consistently at that practice and later after season begins, I continue to miss. I am aware I miss more consistently with some guns than others.
I am use to it, my friends are used to it, and my dog is used to it.
I have heard a number of gunners say there are times when they pull on a bird they know they have done everything right, they are on, and the bird is dead before they pull the trigger. I can say I have never had this feeling.
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JustinCase
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Posted on: Feb. 25 2012,6:10 |
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Rex, I laughed out loud at your post. Great post. And a lot of sense in Fishnfowler's comments, too. How I start out really does set the pace for the next several shots.
As far as warm up helping - yes, I believe it does. By this I mean getting out at clays (skeet, trap, sporting) with the gun you are going to shoot before you get into the game field/forest. If you only use one gun, perhaps not as critical. But if you have a heavier gun for ducks/geese and a lighter one for upland, I'd argue there is an advantage to practicing or "warming up" with the one you are actually going to use before your next hunt.
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walt lister
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Posted on: Feb. 25 2012,11:32 |
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Years ago I started wondering why I would often miss my first shot but hit with the second. As Greg Hartman said above, I realized that I was firing the first shot way too fast. Started waiting a second or so and started doing much better. Just getting in the habit of mounting the gun more slowly did the trick.
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Posted on: Feb. 26 2012,7:53 |
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Last season one day, the dog went on point; I moved in for the flush. The rooster was closer to me than I figured and busted loose at my feet. Collected myself, leveled the gun and said to myself, "man I've got this one". Yank, Yank; first time I remember not taking the safety off. 
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Bob Frankenfield
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Posted on: Feb. 26 2012,8:07 |
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(Rex Hoppie @ Feb. 25 2012,2:59)
QUOTE I am fairly consistent. I typically start out missing followed by more missing and then I settle into a general pattern of missing. I have also noticed when I make a point to practice a few times before season begins, I miss consistently at that practice and later after season begins, I continue to miss. I am aware I miss more consistently with some guns than others.
I am use to it, my friends are used to it, and my dog is used to it.
I have heard a number of gunners say there are times when they pull on a bird they know they have done everything right, they are on, and the bird is dead before they pull the trigger. I can say I have never had this feeling.
We strive for consistency.
QUOTE I have heard a number of gunners say there are times when they pull on a bird they know they have done everything right, they are on, and the bird is dead before they pull the trigger. I can say I have never had this feeling.
These guys have power windows.
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