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Question: SxS or O/U or what??? :: Total Votes:119
Poll choices Votes Statistics
Side by Side 46  [38.66%]
Over Under 52  [43.70%]
Autoloader 14  [11.76%]
Pump 6  [5.04%]
Single Shot 1  [0.84%]
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Put all your worries behind you and buy a Benelli ultralight.
The greatest upland gun ever made.  :;):

Yeah, one for each hand?  ??? ...


I maybe shoot a pump better, but................I like to get into the mood of classic bird hunting.....SXS. :cool:





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How cool would it be to have an autoloading sxs?

Just thought of that.

Not exactly a auto double barrel shotgun but close http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0s21VAJdCM
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I grew up on side by sides and shoot them pretty good.

How can you go wrong with a gun that carries good, points good, shoots good, looks good and has the right number of triggers which is to say two.

Good enough??


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I must support and agree with Greg.  My sporting guns (OU's) are a different animal then my game guns.  When SxS classes were added to the NSCA compitions you would not believe the guns folks showed up with.  None of these guns matched their competition OU's.  For a while it was fun because everyone was shooting guns that were game or waterfowl SxS's with crazy dimensions (Parkers, LC's, 21's, Fox, a few LeFevers and some English and European stuff).  Then a higher power prevailed (called competitive knowledge) and shooters figured out they needed to match their dimensions to get a simular performance.  Now we see a number of people shooting (like Greg's 21) full race SxS's in those events and scores have come up, competition has gotten stronger and, though I hate to say it, some of the fun has gone out of the class.

The bottom line to me as an instructor is to shoot what you shoot well and to hell with the rest unless you want to spend some time and money to have that other gun fitted up like the one you shoot well.  Yes, there is that thing about fit again....

By the way, I do also hunt with an OU and occasionally a pump.  I will start hunting next season on occasion with an auto... a Remington Mod 11 20, 26" cyl barrel that was my fathers which I am having put in shape.  The birds don't care what you shoot them with.... neither should you.


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The O/U's take the lead!  I know it doesn't matter what you shoot them with, but I think MOST of us care about the aesthetic and what the gun carries like, how it balances, the pride you have in it and if it will be handed down to your kids or locked in a closet and forgotten.  It doesn't have to be expensive to meet the criteria as your special gun, nor does it have to be anything custom or rare, it just needs to stir that emotion in you.
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For me it's not the number of birds in the bag at the end of the day. For me the SxS is a classic. Almost romantic. Ah shucks.
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I've never noticed much difference in the way I shoot any shotgun but a sxs feels best in my hand or over my shoulder while taking a walk in the woods.
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The Good Lord gave me two eyes side by side, not one in the middle of my forehead.  That proves side by side shotguns are the proper ones for bird hunting.

OK, but how about our prostates, knees, and lower backs.... just what do those gems prove??  :down:

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I grew up on side by sides and shoot them pretty good.

How can you go wrong with a gun that carries good, points good, shoots good, looks good and has the right number of triggers which is to say two.

Good enough??

Ah yes indeed two triggers are so very cool and an absolute must have, no question about it.  Particularly for the common and critical task of..... uh....... well........gosh .....like..... maybe.... pulling them both at the same time?? :devil:

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The bottom line to me as an instructor is to shoot what you shoot well and to hell with the rest unless you want to spend some time and money to have that other gun fitted up like the one you shoot well.  Yes, there is that thing about fit again....

The birds don't care what you shoot them with.... neither should you.

Hear hear!

I shoot a 20 gauge o/u that fits reasonalbly well, is light enough to carry all day but heavy enough to soak recoil with the loads I shoot, and I'm absolutely, totally familiar with the gun after 25 years or so with it.  IMO, action type  ranks at the bottom of importance among the critical factors involved (with gauge not far ahead).  

I suppose there are folks around who can pick up most any gun, of whatever fit/balance/sight picture/etc, and shoot it well.  But I've never met any of them.


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Put all your worries behind you and buy a Benelli ultralight.
The greatest upland gun ever made.  :;):

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"Just want to get an idea of what people use as their PRIMARY GUN- the one you kill the most birds with"

The BUL is an upland killing machine.

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You are an Upland Killing Machine!!!!  Doesn't make a difference what gun. You shoot  :D

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Which is better - SxS or O/U?

... MM went on to explain that O/U's are far more common because they are readily available in every possible target configuration at economical prices; and that's all most shooters these days have been exposed to.

Besides, MM explained, almost all SxS's are basically configured as game guns and almost all O/U's are configured as target guns

(a true O/U game gun is a VERY rare critter - and so is a SxS configured as a full-race target gun),

of course a target gun is going to do a better on targets, everything else being equal, than a light game gun.


In other words, the performance of a similarly configured SxS and O/U was so close as to be identical for all practical purposes.  The only person who might (and I say might) notice a difference would be a very serious target shooter at the highest levels of competition.

Comparing the typical SxS (nearly all are basically game guns) to the typical O/U (nearly all are basically target guns) is a completely invalid exercise,

Greg, love the post & picts, but it does raise a couple questions...

You point out that the majority of o/u are not set up for game.  So the average guy like me isn't going to afford to buy / make / create a game gun o/u.  Can be done in an exercise or with some cash / careful purchase, but a normal trip to the big box gun shop is going to produce a target o/u, not a game o/u?

So wouldn't the typical game gun be a better bet in the field (no matter the configuration?  And if in normal configurations the sxs is more likely to be set up as a field gun, wouldn't that suggest that the normal sxs is likely to do better in the field than the normal target set up o/u?

Ends up being a horses for courses thing... Use a game gun for game, and most sxs's are game guns.  Use a target gun for targets and most o/u are target guns...  And yes, this is a question, not a smart-alic answer.

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Whichever one you shoot best is the better upland gun for you.

For me it's the SxS.  With my eye issues, the wide sighting plane of the SxS helps keep my left eye from taking over and causing my shot to go awry.


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