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rosies dad 
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2012,6:05 |
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Its what youre used to and prefer.
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There are two seasons, BIRD SEASON and getting ready for BIRD SEASON.
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Bryan Lee
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Posted on: Feb. 10 2012,6:45 |
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I grew up on side by sides and shoot them pretty good.
How can you go wrong with a gun that carries good, points good, shoots good, looks good and has the right number of triggers which is to say two.
Good enough??
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Huntschool
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Posted on: Feb. 11 2012,7:00 |
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I must support and agree with Greg. My sporting guns (OU's) are a different animal then my game guns. When SxS classes were added to the NSCA compitions you would not believe the guns folks showed up with. None of these guns matched their competition OU's. For a while it was fun because everyone was shooting guns that were game or waterfowl SxS's with crazy dimensions (Parkers, LC's, 21's, Fox, a few LeFevers and some English and European stuff). Then a higher power prevailed (called competitive knowledge) and shooters figured out they needed to match their dimensions to get a simular performance. Now we see a number of people shooting (like Greg's 21) full race SxS's in those events and scores have come up, competition has gotten stronger and, though I hate to say it, some of the fun has gone out of the class.
The bottom line to me as an instructor is to shoot what you shoot well and to hell with the rest unless you want to spend some time and money to have that other gun fitted up like the one you shoot well. Yes, there is that thing about fit again....
By the way, I do also hunt with an OU and occasionally a pump. I will start hunting next season on occasion with an auto... a Remington Mod 11 20, 26" cyl barrel that was my fathers which I am having put in shape. The birds don't care what you shoot them with.... neither should you.
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2011 Division I ACUI National Champions
2011 SCTP Collegiate Champions
2012 ACUI Div II National HOA Champions
2012 SCTP Collegiate Champions
2013 ACUI Division II RU National Champions
Southeastern Illinois College
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Laminarman
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Posted on: Feb. 11 2012,7:35 |
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The O/U's take the lead! I know it doesn't matter what you shoot them with, but I think MOST of us care about the aesthetic and what the gun carries like, how it balances, the pride you have in it and if it will be handed down to your kids or locked in a closet and forgotten. It doesn't have to be expensive to meet the criteria as your special gun, nor does it have to be anything custom or rare, it just needs to stir that emotion in you.
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Clay N Feathers
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Posted on: Feb. 12 2012,2:34 |
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For me it's not the number of birds in the bag at the end of the day. For me the SxS is a classic. Almost romantic. Ah shucks.
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RuffChaser
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Posted on: Feb. 12 2012,3:07 |
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I hate to get technical on you but Kevlar is a type of plastic. It's a trade name - Poly-paraphenylene terephthalamide - branded Kevlar.
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‘There are two kinds of hunting: ordinary hunting, and ruffed grouse hunting,’ A Leopold
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doodleridge2
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Posted on: Feb. 12 2012,3:36 |
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I've never noticed much difference in the way I shoot any shotgun but a sxs feels best in my hand or over my shoulder while taking a walk in the woods.
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Olaf
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(Cold Iron @ Feb. 10 2012,11:50)
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(ScottGrush @ Feb. 10 2012,8:15)
QUOTE Put all your worries behind you and buy a Benelli ultralight. The greatest upland gun ever made.  X2 "Just want to get an idea of what people use as their PRIMARY GUN- the one you kill the most birds with" The BUL is an upland killing machine.
Cold,
You are an Upland Killing Machine!!!! Doesn't make a difference what gun. You shoot 
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Dakota Dogman
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2012,11:01 |
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(Greg Hartman @ Feb. 10 2012,11:38)
QUOTE Which is better - SxS or O/U?
... MM went on to explain that O/U's are far more common because they are readily available in every possible target configuration at economical prices; and that's all most shooters these days have been exposed to.
Besides, MM explained, almost all SxS's are basically configured as game guns and almost all O/U's are configured as target guns
(a true O/U game gun is a VERY rare critter - and so is a SxS configured as a full-race target gun),
of course a target gun is going to do a better on targets, everything else being equal, than a light game gun.
In other words, the performance of a similarly configured SxS and O/U was so close as to be identical for all practical purposes. The only person who might (and I say might) notice a difference would be a very serious target shooter at the highest levels of competition.
Comparing the typical SxS (nearly all are basically game guns) to the typical O/U (nearly all are basically target guns) is a completely invalid exercise,
Greg, love the post & picts, but it does raise a couple questions...
You point out that the majority of o/u are not set up for game. So the average guy like me isn't going to afford to buy / make / create a game gun o/u. Can be done in an exercise or with some cash / careful purchase, but a normal trip to the big box gun shop is going to produce a target o/u, not a game o/u?
So wouldn't the typical game gun be a better bet in the field (no matter the configuration? And if in normal configurations the sxs is more likely to be set up as a field gun, wouldn't that suggest that the normal sxs is likely to do better in the field than the normal target set up o/u?
Ends up being a horses for courses thing... Use a game gun for game, and most sxs's are game guns. Use a target gun for targets and most o/u are target guns... And yes, this is a question, not a smart-alic answer.
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... we still live in a time when old dogs die... (in "Thy Kingdom Come" 9/23/12)
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Jack L
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Posted on: Feb. 13 2012,5:21 |
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Whichever one you shoot best is the better upland gun for you.
For me it's the SxS. With my eye issues, the wide sighting plane of the SxS helps keep my left eye from taking over and causing my shot to go awry.
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The leaves yellow on the cottonwoods
Leaves floating on the trout streams
And above the hills
The high blue windless skies
Now he will be a part of them forever.”
Hemingway 1939
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