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12ette 
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2012,8:28 |
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Since I was a kid looking over gun brochures until the gloss was worn I have wanted a Ruger Number One. I never bought one because there was no place to shoot one. Well a few years back NY opened up a rifle zone in the southern portion of the state. This had me shopping for a rife, I was off to buy a used Winchester in .33 Win. Well I was stopped cold by my grandfather who gave me his Remington 78 in 30-06. Damn! See for as little as I hunt deer what more do I need than a 30-06.
Well, I am back and I am buying a Ruger Number 1. What I am having a hard time with is caliber and style. This will be a walking around gun, I don't sit in trees. My thoughts are the RSI version because a full stock is wicked cool. I cannot decide between 30-06 for practicality or 7x57 for cool. On the other hand I have been hankering for a 45-70 in a Number One. The 45-70 is compelling because it too is wicked cool.
I don't need a 300yrd tack driver either. I only need 150yrd MAX gun. I am in the NE and there are woods here. Chances are high it will wear an aperture sight.
So anyone want to chime in and offer up an opinion.
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Laminarman
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2012,9:40 |
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I have a Ruger #1 in .243. I can tell you the fit, finish and accuracy are incredible. It's a bit big for me and I've thought of selling it, but I got it for a good price with the original box and letting it go is proving tough. I'd say it has no more than a couple dozen shells through it, so I may just hang on to it. That's not my point of the post, my point is that you need to buy one, they're great. This gun is heavy for me, and I don't walk around with it. But from a tree stand I've taken coyote's out to 300 yards without a problem. I'm in the Binghamton area and if you can't find one to handle and are close to me you're welcome to come handle it and shoot it to see if you like them. I'm considering one of their sporter models for something easier to carry.
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Hunshatt
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2012,9:42 |
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.35 akerly improved or .35 whelen... a straight .35..... or a .358
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bobman
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2012,10:01 |
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The ruger number one has always been my favorite rifle yet I've never owned one.
FWIW I would go for a 257 roberts. I have a model 77 in 257 roberts and its a joy to shoot and flattens deer, I've probably killed a 100 deer with mine.
No kick and lots of cool history.
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RUFUS80
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2012,10:25 |
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I used to own a 1-H tropical model in 375 H & H . Great gun and accurate. Sold to a friend who thought he needed it. If me for a walking gun go for the 1-A. But that 7mm Mauser is a great cartridge.
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popplecop
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2012,10:38 |
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Have had them in 25-06, 270 Win., 7x57mm and 45-70. Only one left is the 45-70 I was given 23 years ago when I retired. Very accurate, just loves the 350 gr. Hornady RN. I have killed a number of deet with it and it will continue to be my favorite deer rifle
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Huntschool
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2012,10:40 |
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The 1 A in 7x57 would be ideal and I would not hesitate to put a low power var. scope on it. I have a 1 H 338 right now and its a killer.....
I have had several others and wish I had them back. I don't personally like the full stocked model. Just dows not look right to me...
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Mike Connally
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2012,12:26 |
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I've had 3. One in 6 mm Rem that wouldn't group inside of 4" at 100 yards. One in .243 that wasn't any better. Another in 7mm Mag that would shoot heavy bullets in 1 1/2 inches. The first two had medium barrels and the large forend. The 7mm had a medium barrel and the Alexander Henry forend. They all wanted to string their shots. When I contacted Ruger on the first two they said they fell within their accuracy standards.....
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Huntschool
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2012,12:41 |
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Mike:
If I remember correctly, the "stringing" thing was a common problem and I think it was taken care of when they modified the forearm attachment.
My 338 will stack em in tight. I also had a 1A 270 that would keep em tight but after three quick shots it would start to move a bit. This did not bother me as the first shot was on the money and I did not buy a single shot to shoot fast....
"Single shot shooters only shoot once"
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shinbone
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2012,12:53 |
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I, too, love the Ruger #1. The Farquharson-type action is sweet and the rifle is an aesthetic home-run. However, I never bought one because I heard from many sources that the accuracy was pretty bad. Just curious: When was the forearm hanger redesigned to solve the accuracy problem?
Instead of the Ruger #1, I ended up with two Winchester 1885 reproductions made by Miroku. One is a High Wall in .325 WSM, and the other is a Low Wall in .22lr. The High Wall has a full octagon barrel and the Low Wall has a half-octagon/half-round barrel. Both are beautiful guns.
I got the "non-traditional".325 WSM for elk hunting (which it has yet to do, BTW). .325 WSM may not be the best caliber for a single shot elk rifle, but it was on close-out sale at Gander Mountain so I got it for relatively cheap. The Low Wall was a NIB Gunbroker buy. Somewhat surprisingly, the Low Wall cost far more than the High Wall.
The .325 High Wall shot 3/4" groups at 100 yards out of the box with factory ammo. Haven't had a chance to shoot the Low Wall in .22lr, yet.
A comparison of the No. 1 and the High Wall by Chuck Hawks:
http://www.chuckhawks.com/compared_browning1885_rugerNo1.htm
--shinbone
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whdtt
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2012,1:50 |
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Not to dissuade you from anything, but when I bought my first (and only) rifle, I spoke with a gunsmith about my choices. I too wanted a "walk-about" gun, with capability to shoot those rare "powerline" shots of ~150yds.
This is what the 'smith told me: the guns are HEAVY, and larger than they need to be. Not something that I'd want to bush brush with. Not only that, but b/c of their forearm bolt/barrel design, they are inherently less accurate. He said 3" in 100yds would be all that I could expect, which is accurate enough, but there were just better choices for me, especially since this was my one and only all-around gun.
Now, I've always loved the looks and design, but I passed.
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walks with gun
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2012,1:53 |
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Wow 12ette you've picked 3 of my favorites. I bought a #1 AB in 30/06 about 25 years ago and have taken 75-100 deer with it. I really want another one in 7mm for my walking iron sighted gun. I'm a firm believer if more people hunted with a single shot there would be less wounded game.
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Peterson
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2012,2:19 |
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I'd go 7x57 or 6.5 Swede. I'd get a lever gun in 45-70, just seems like a lever cartridge to me.
I passed on a number 1 once and I still regret it, it was 7mm stw.
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Huntschool
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Posted on: Feb. 08 2012,2:31 |
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Shin Bone...
(Edit Note) the Hawks article is the fix I was thinking about
I am not sure.. just going off vague memory but I think something was done about the early 90's or... dont hold me to that.
There have been several single shot sites on line that have had discussions on "fixing" the problem. I'll look back and see if I can find something but in the m,ean time one could likely go to a site and ask the question.
I also have a 270 in the Browning High Wall, full oct barrel and it flat out shoot a 270 the best of any of my 270's save for an older mod 70 with a Heart barrel.
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Game Preserve/Shooting Complex Mgt.
Shotgun Team Coach
2011 Division I ACUI National Champions
2011 SCTP Collegiate Champions
2012 ACUI Div II National HOA Champions
2012 SCTP Collegiate Champions
2013 ACUI Division II RU National Champions
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