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Danibeth 
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Posted on: Feb. 06 2012,5:26 |
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I don't shoot a 28 gauge but have been thinking about it. The problem is the cost of non-lead. I have a chance to buy a nice 28 and with it there is a 28 ga. Mec progressive reloader with 300+ empties and a large amount of Bismuth #4 shotgun shells. My problem is I have zero idea on what is considered "fair" on the shells or the reloader and could use some help with what a "good price" should be for these. If anyone can help I'd sure appreciate it...thank you in advance.
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WPG Gizmo
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Posted on: Feb. 06 2012,5:40 |
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Well a bottle of Bismuth #4 6.6 pounds runs $157.
The Mec Progressive figuring it is a Grabber and not a 9000 would run used around $350 so I would say $300-450 is a reasonable price for the reloading gear. If it is a 9000 Mec figure $450-600 for the gear but it all depends on condition.
What are you planing to hunt #4 Bismuth is rather large size shot in a 28Ga you would be better off with #7 or #6.
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Danibeth
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Posted on: Feb. 06 2012,8:05 |
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I don't know that I would want the #4 shot in the bismuth, but i'm just looking for a fair price. They're boxes of the shotshells already assembled from the manufacturer so I "suppose" if I wanted to use them on ducks while i was out snipe hunting then I would have that option.
Thanks for the input...
Danibeth
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Posted on: Feb. 06 2012,8:12 |
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Are they ten count boxes or twentyfive count boxes?
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Danibeth
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Posted on: Feb. 06 2012,10:39 |
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PartridgeCartridge
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Posted on: Feb. 06 2012,10:53 |
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Anything under $50 box would be money well spent.
The long and short of it is, regardless of what price you can get the gun for, if you need to shoot notox, 28 ga. is a poor choice to go unless you are a dedicated reloader and shop your components well..
Shop for a 20 if you want a subgauge for notox.
If you can get the 28 and use it for clays and lead shot, by all means, get one.
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WPG Gizmo
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Posted on: Feb. 07 2012,7:17 |
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You could get the Nontox and then resell it to make some money back. #4 shot in a 28Ga is likely not going to pattern well. I love my 28Ga that is all I hunt upland with but I would not use it on ducks. By all means get the 28 to hunt snipe with and if you have to use nontox you can get it in smaller size shot just be aware it is not cheap.
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Posted on: Feb. 07 2012,7:41 |
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I've shot teal in Louisana with my 28 with no. 4 bismuth, this is factory loaded when Win. was selling it. The 28 I used has 30" barrels choked IC & Full. I kept all my shooting to 30 yds. or less and it worked out. I like 6 bismuth better and have a limited supply that I use mainly for woodcock. I have a MEC Sizemaster that I use for both 16 and 28.
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Posted on: Feb. 07 2012,9:27 |
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I'm not a waterfowler, but I'm pretty sure popplecop could tell you: if it's legal to shoot snipe with lead where you are, I think you might be in trouble carrying both lead and bismuth at the same time, and swapping when you see ducks working. I think you can get into trouble for having lead loads on you if you're also carrying a dead duck or two, even though you shot them with nontox.
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Larry Brown
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Posted on: Feb. 07 2012,9:28 |
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Posted on: Feb. 07 2012,10:02 |
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(Larry Brown @ Feb. 07 2012,9:27)
QUOTE I'm not a waterfowler, but I'm pretty sure popplecop could tell you: if it's legal to shoot snipe with lead where you are, I think you might be in trouble carrying both lead and bismuth at the same time, and swapping when you see ducks working. I think you can get into trouble for having lead loads on you if you're also carrying a dead duck or two, even though you shot them with nontox.
Correctamundo Larry, in most situations/areas anyway. DB, you might take a look at these loads as a more "economical" nontox option if you decide to head down the 28 gauge road:
http://www.polywad.com/greenlite.html
I'd certainly agree with Mr. PC that a 20 would provide MUCH more flexibility and utility than a 28, particularly in the non-tox arena. It really tends to boil down to how much self restraint in range of shot selection one is prepared to accept.
Good luck, have fun.
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Danibeth
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Posted on: Feb. 07 2012,10:28 |
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Thanks y'all for the input...definitely given me good stuff to think on.
Larry, yes we can shoot lead for snipe, but I only shoot nontox when snipe hunting since the opportunity is often there to shoot a duck and I sure don't want to get in trouble with The Man.
Danibeth
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